Contributed Story: Dating Chinese Women

Posted on 26. Dec, 2012 by in contributed stories, other countries

The fourth in Chuck’s series on life in China. Chinese women are often an object of intrigue to Westerners. Hopefully this piece will put to rest any of those fantasies.

Nobody is going to fuck with China in ping pong and synchronized diving. If it were an Olympic event I’d give them another medal: worst fucking women. Bad kissing, worthless conversation, absolutely no affection, horrendously flaky, bad sex – they make female Pashtun terrorists look cordial.

Scatterbrained flakiness

Chinese women come with a three-fourths flake rate. I don’t mean the ones where you get the number and they don’t return your correspondence, or where they call to back out a day or so in advance, I’m talking within plus or minus one hour of the agreed upon meeting time. Here it comes. The text message. It’s inevitable. “I can’t make it. I have something.” You do have something. It is called inconsideration.

Last night I was supposed to meet a girl at 6 in the shopping district. 6 rolls up. She doesn’t. “Oh, I’m on the way.” I busy myself until 6:30. “I am in the east and can’t get a taxi. Give me thirty minutes.”

Thirty minutes later, I call her. “Where are you?”

“At the KFC near my house.”

“So you’re not coming?”

“No, I’m sick.”

Lying cunt.

I’m going to adopt my Chilean roommate’s method for dealing with this. Cunt: “I have something.” Chilean: “Oh, okay. Then I’ll take back the iPhone I bought you as a gift.” Instant callback.

Worthless conversation

Me: “So what do you like to do for fun?”

Her: “Sleep, watch TV.”

Me: “So you went on a week long business trip to Zhengzhou. Did you go to the Shaolin Temple? Any good food?”

Her: “No I just stayed in the hotel. I don’t know Zhengzhou.”

Your own fucking province and you are too scared to go outside? I don’t like Kansas City but I still get some goddamn barbecue while I’m there.

Me: “When you were young, what did you think China would be like in 20 years? Did you expect so many changes?”

Her: “Oh, I don’t know. When I was young I just wanted to get old so I could have babies.”

If a lamprey could talk it would probably say the same thing. Am I talking with the same species? Maybe not.

So glad I learned Chinese so I could understand this bullshit.

Bad kissing, bad everything

Should you survive the flaking and the conversation, congratulations! You have just entered the seventh circle of hell. There is no logical [touching -> kiss -> groping -> clothing removal -> sex] chain of progression. Intimacy with a Chinese woman is a dog fight from start to finish. In fact it is so ridiculous, such a contorted gauntlet of chicanery, that one buddy dubbed it “The Dog and Pony Show.”

You crack your knuckles and go in. “No, no, no! No, no, no!” You get a little leg, but the kiss is swatted. She doesn’t leave and looks at you intently. You regroup. In the next attack you get about an inch higher on the thigh and a peck on the cheek before being hit with cannon fire. Your trench is now ten meters closer to enemy territory. It’s going to be a long war, gents. You make a cup of tea. Come back. Dog fight, dog fight, dog fight. Check your emails. Dog fight.

It is actually easier to grab tits and puss before getting a kiss. Does this make sense? It does not.

After an hour or two, sustaining only minor injuries, you now have her naked and ready for penetration.

God awful sex

And how is one rewarded after The Dog and Pony Show? Why, with terrible sex of course. All of that previous vigor is gone. She’s become a dead log. Anything outside of missionary requires a tutorial. She won’t look you in the eye, and she’ll make that awful pain / crying / squeaking sound just like the Asian girls in pornos.

Even the prostitutes are hit and miss. On a night of boozing, the Chilean convinced me to go with him to a hotel and call in the 24 hour “massage” service. The whore I had wouldn’t allow full penetration; she put her hand down there to block it. She made a complete whine cry when I went to kiss her rather than just turn the cheek. She was startled and resisted  when I grabbed her to toss her in different positions. She refused doggy style. Worse, I didn’t get off. USD 30 down the fucking drain.

If you want a decent Chinese woman you have to go to Tier 1 cities where some have been trained by foreign men. Tier 3 sucks shit, and I have no patience.

And for this, they expect to be bought a house and a car? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. If I were Chinese I would definitely be importing one from Vietnam. Or better yet, I’d trade a bag of rice for a peasant chick at the North Korean border.

So given my experience, here are my tips:

9 tips to dating Chinese women

1. Know what you’re up against

China has enforced a one child policy since 1979. This, combined with a preference for sons, has led to over 120 males for every 100 females. Many of those that made it past the abortionist’s scalpel have lost their goddamn minds in taking advantage of their sexual economic advantage.

2. Meeting them

a) Social circles: Chinese people are inherently mistrustful of strangers since everyone is considered a potential swindler (with good reason in China). Being introduced by someone known makes a big difference.

b) Language exchange partners: Some of these women are open to sex. And they’ll likely speak English. Tier 1 cities will have English-language sites to place an ad, such as The Beijinger. Sub-tier cities have their own local sites (in Chinese) with classified sections. It is acceptable to openly request a female teacher.

c) Libraries: Yes, libraries. Particularly if you have access to one at a university.

d) Lone shopkeepers: Chinese women are far more receptive when nobody is watching.

For c and d, I’d open with “What does this say?” I show them a text message in Chinese, about a movie or whatever, and act like I can’t read it.

e) Weixin: This is a cell phone application that allows you to see and communicate with others within a 1 kilometer radius. The disadvantage to this is that you won’t know what they look like right away.

If you are crazy, like my Chilean roommate was, you can steal his tactic. He would wait for a response, then immediately send a naked photo of himself (he was short, bald and hairy). All recipients would initially act repulsed. Yet after a week or so of silence a handful of them would come back with, “Hey, haven’t spoken to you in a while.” That’s when you know it’s on. He must have had sex with six or seven girls this way. Through Weixin’s “shake the phone” function, he even had some woman offer to buy him a train ticket to Xi’an for a fling.
(WARNING: Prepare to have your account suspended numerous times if you use this tactic.)

f) Dating websites: There are heaps of them. A Chinese friend recommended Jiayuan.com which I used for a while. However, the site is only in Chinese and requires a Chinese bank account to pay for access. Tier 1 cities will have English-language sites more to the point such as We Live in Beijing. Such sites basically serve as a platform for foreign men to hook up with Chinese women.

Some dating websites have required fields asking whether or not you own a car and house, your salary, and even how much is in your bank account right now.

g) Bars/clubs: This is a less feasible option outside of tier 1 cities. The last Chinese city I was in, population about 1 million (tier 3), had only three bars and most of the women there were mercenaries (not volunteers). In China only “bad girls” go to bars, thus most avoid these venues.

3. Those married or with boyfriends are fair game

Elsewhere, if a woman tells you she is married or has a boyfriend it is a polite way of blowing you off. In China it’s just water under the bridge. It just means she can’t get caught. He’s probably just a host for her parasitical house-and-car ambition.

4. Use QQ

QQ is the most popular instant messaging platform in China. Chinese people are glued to it. It is easier and more effective to get QQ numbers than phone numbers. I hate instant messaging but at least this way it I could use Google Translate if I needed it. It has an English version, QQ International.

5. Arrange day dates when possible (instead of nights)

This helps avoid the chaperone – mostly a problem outside of tier 1. I can’t tell you how many times I met up with a chick who brought along a third wheel who just sat there playing Angry Birds on her cell phone the entire time. I once bought only two tickets to a movie I knew would sell out (Transformers 3), just so the chaperone would have to leave. Instead she waited outside the theater for the entire 2+ hour movie.

Schedule something earlier when it is more likely that a chaperone is unavailable. Plus earlier dates give you more time to make it through The Dog and Pony Show (see below). Or you can bring a friend along to occupy the intruder.

6. Try not to get stood up

Chinese women will stand you up, sin verguenza. Even if you just spoke with her 15 minutes earlier and she was “on her way,” invariably, as the time comes, she will text saying that she has “something” (wo you shiqing) and can’t make it.

My Chilean roommate would respond to “wo you shiqing” with “Okay. Then I will return the iPhone I bought you as a gift.” Miraculously, her schedule is clear. Don’t answer until after an hour or so, as if you are busy returning the phone. After she calls back for the tenth time, you’re back on.

7. If you can’t speak Chinese and she doesn’t speak English

In some cities I’ve seen coffee shops that have computers at the table with access to the internet and Google Translate. I’ve also seen cell phone applications that translate spoken words into Chinese, and the converse.

8. Bonus ploy: the open house date

After a while I got tired of girls asking about my salary and saying that I needed to buy them a house and a car (sometimes during the first date), so I devised a scheme to bait their gold digging tendencies. Unfortunately, I only thought of it at the end of my stint in China and never got a chance to try it.

When you have a specimen for experimentation, tell her that you are looking to buy a flat in China but that you don’t know anything about Chinese real estate. Ask her if she’ll accompany you to go look at a place. Pick a newly constructed luxury place in a posh district. Memorize vocabulary about plumbing and feng shui. Sell it further by saying things like, “Wouldn’t it be nice to go walking in that park next door after work?” My guess is that the chick will be delighted and the panties will drop.

9. The Dog and Pony Show

When you get one back to your house or hotel room, it is time to take one out of Colin’s playbook and “bulldoze the bitch.” There is no other way about it. But in China, it will be a two-hour dogfight.

You go in, get a thigh with your hand but the kiss is swatted. “No, no, no,” she says, but still sits there. On the next assault you almost get boobs. “Don’t touch me.” Still doesn’t leave. Make some tea. Come back. Dogfight. Check your emails. Dogfight. Incrementally, and with much persistence and frustration, you’ll finally get her stripped and ready to go.

BONUS TIP

My best advice on dating mainland Chinese women: DON’T! Go to the Philippines instead. As for me, I’m quite happy to be back at home sweet home, the good ol’ US of A – the land of normal, consensual sex.

 

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15 Responses to “Contributed Story: Dating Chinese Women”

  1. J

    27. Dec, 2012

    Latina’s are easier no dog and pony show thus far

  2. Jin Tian

    27. Dec, 2012

    I lived in China from 2002 to 2006 and didn’t have to fight the girls like you describe to get into their panties. They do like to tell you they are good girls, though, which you have to ignore.
    And I must say I regularly had memorable shags there.

    Just don’t marry them!

  3. Colin

    28. Dec, 2012

    You can taste the bitterness in every word. Just type ‘CHINESE WOMEN ARE *insert default ‘slut’ type defined by the internet here’ next time and save us this contrived and obviously generic woman opinion.

  4. Colin

    28. Dec, 2012

    @ other Colin – I think you missed the entire point of the story. The main complaint is that they AREN’T slutty. And from what I read, it’s clearly NOT a generic woman opinion, but a Chinese woman opinion. Did you even read the article?

  5. Colin

    28. Dec, 2012

    I did, you’re focusing too much on the definition of slut, I was using it in the generic internet sense where a girl who doesn’t put out is ironically referred to as a slut.

    In other words, it reeks of hypocritical internet rage.

  6. Chuck

    29. Dec, 2012

    Chinese women are not sluts.

    What they are is cold, even in the more cosmopolitan Tier 1 cities.

    As to the “hypocritical internet rage”: What I wrote *is* rage in the sense that I focused on the bad things–and there were plenty. And it might even be hypocritical as I’ve dated Chinese women since leaving China (as well as other varieties–the US has a lot of colors to choose from :) ) even though I swore them off previously.

    If your experience with Chinese women is different, please share or provide a link which gives a more accurate depiction.

  7. Watah

    03. Jan, 2013

    Guys, western guys have a big red stamp on their forehead…”poon hound” …u gotta work through it…the legacy of Thailand, Phillipines…and many, many sex tourists. But, once you do, they’re the hos to beat all hos.

  8. Jimmy

    04. Jan, 2013

    Any country where the girls respond positively to my soccer hooligan physique is OK with me.

  9. Wow

    11. Jan, 2013

    I’m with the first Colin here.
    This guy is nuts.

  10. Matt

    26. Jan, 2013

    The P.I. is awesome. A mix of Latin and Asian cultures. Goofy fuckin’ girls to be sure. But a whole lot of fun.

  11. John

    17. Mar, 2013

    Oh man, I got such a good laugh reading this article.
    I had almost given up on dating Chinese women until I met one who changed my outlook on them. They are great lovers with high sex drives.
    The same with Vietnamese, who are some of the most selfish and bipolar women I have ever dated. At least Chinese women believe in reciprocating.
    I have met some very affectionate Chinese women, and some cold as ice. Some were terrible in bed, but some were just the best of the best.
    The best lover I ever had was a Chinese girl, she even topped a Brazilian girlfriend I once had, who was just amazing.
    But yeah, I would have to say that most Chinese women will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends, are way too money motivated, and can get very greedy.

  12. John

    17. Mar, 2013

    Excellent article by the way, and very informative, thanks!

  13. fitzrite

    18. Apr, 2013

    I was engaged to a woman from Beihai. Since she was over 40 and divorced, she pertty much found herself in the position of having to settle for a western husband. She also wanted desperately to get out of China. Once she decided the US wasn’t as wonderful as she had fantasized, she was back in Beihai–a very nice city, actually–in a heartbeat.

    Most the things you said are pretty much true, startling so. She had very little education and almost no culture. Didn’t know–or care–about the history and culture of her own country. I probably knew more about it than she did. She had no intellectual curiosity whatsoever, and our conversations were always extremely shallow.

    As you pointed out, normal, loving sexual relations were often an ordeal. She once actually cried (for an hour) because I rubbed her ass while she was cooking in the kitchen. She could not kiss worth a crap, didn’t seem to like kissing–a dead giveaway that she probably wasn’t really attracted to me. She was extremely spoiled and self-centered and did as little as possible for me–yet I was expected to do things for her constantly. And nothing was ever good enough for her.

    I think you are right–I suspect Chinese women in general may be more spoiled and arrogant than American women. Not sure which is worse.

  14. fitzrite

    19. Apr, 2013

    Chinese women are very distrustful of men and for good reason–Chinese men treat them like shit. So they learn to play their cards close to their vests. They find it a serious disadvantage should you know what they are actually thinking or feeling.

    Nonetheless, I cannot condone your tricking them in order to use them for your own sexual gratification and little more. This is exactly why they have their guards up, and you only prove them right by doing this.

    Be that as it may, most of the things you say about them describe my ex-fiancee to a “T.” It’s uncanny. I feel so much better knowing that she was just being a typical Chinese female. Chinese women are extremely demanding and difficult to deal with, perhaps even worse than American women–if that is even possible.

    However, they will often settle for older white guys, because Chinese men do not want women over 35, and because they think American men have money and are pushovers. I thought I had gotten lucky when I found one 20 years my junior. However, a younger Chinese woman (probably any younger woman, for that matter) is simply not going to “fall in love” with me the way I did with Guanfen and her awesome Asian skin.

    So if you get involved with a Chinese women, especially a younger one, you should realize there is a charade and be prepared to go along with it. Do not pick off that scab and look under it–once you do, it won’t go back on. Just make up your mind to overlook the fact that she probably doesn’t care about you one-tenth as much as you care about her. It’s all about your doing your absolute best for her at all times and her doing as little as possible for you. That’s the game and those are the ground rules. If you can’t go along with this, then don’t play the game.

  15. Daryl

    18. May, 2013

    I agree. Thats exactly what I have found. No love, unable to consider anyones feelings but their own, poor sex. poor kissing and they expect you to bow to their very presence. Of course deceit is rife as is the worship of money. Overall a very poor guality of person. And this is a long term relationship. As soon as i was silly enough to get married out comes the abuse. Luckily for me she was not in my country yet so divorce was the option before i was condemed forever. They are bad news. I actualy think i was to good to her and she had mistaken my genuine kindness for a human weakness.

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